Throughout your musical career, have you experienced any ‘wow’ moments? Those moments that you stop to reflect and can’t believe you are where you are?
More recently having Counter Records/Ninja Tune add me to the family in Europe was a special moment, having great support on Annie Mac’s BBC Radio 1 show and having Ford.’s remix of “SWIM” being nominated for a Grammy was definitely the biggest wow moment. I’ve been in music for a while, but these last few weeks have made me stop and reflect.
You have recently signed and released your first EP ‘SWIM’ on ODESZA’s Foreign Family Collective, congrats. You have now teamed with Ninja Tune and Foreign Family Collective for the release of your latest release ‘Movements’, how did you meet? Can you please tell us about the creative process and the concept behind the single.
Most of the music that I have made for this project came from an unrestricted place, which is rare for me. I wanted to experiment, usually by playing around with a certain sound without talking myself out of it before I’ve gotten anywhere. I figured there would be something beneficial in letting music flow out naturally and wanted to see what it resulted in. That’s my concept – so far so good!
Who would you like to work with in the future? Is there anymore special collaborations coming up anytime soon?
Nothing too special lined up yet in terms of classic collaborations. I think that in this world of music you end up collaborating in different ways, sometimes through support slots or having another act remix you. It’s less about writing together as everyone tends to have ‘their sound’ pretty locked down and more about bouncing creativity in other ways.
Everyone experiences good days and bad days, as a musician, when you have a bad day, what motivates you to keep moving and look ahead to the future?
This is a great question – I have had a lot of pretty average days after working very very hard for a long period of time. My endurance has been strong but eventually you start to consider moving into other things. I think I was lucky enough to not be in financial peril or that could have made it extremely hard to justify pushing through. I think because I had experienced some good times that was enough to keep going and hope they come again. I’ve also seen the cycles of careers at work so I know small dips mean nothing as long as you keep having strong output. It’s about small wins, but I’ve seen time and time again that endurance is one of the biggest factors at play in a music career. The last few weeks have been a testament to that for me. Just stay true to what you want to do and work hard at it. Start with a broad direction and find a place that you can fit in, don’t try to be something you’re not. Its obvious.
In your own opinion, what is the most meaningful song you have produced? What makes you say that one?
That’s a difficult question answer. Not many of my songs have meaning in the traditional sense, i.e personal lyrics. For me it relates more to being bold and finding my own sound. If I had to choose I would say ‘Movements’ or ‘Dopamine’ are the most original and meaningful in that way.
How do you approach the sensitive task of discussing changes and rearrangements with artists?
I haven’t really had to do that with this project. The few times I have it has been relatively easy since it’s my thing.
What personal advice would you give to someone wanting to pursue this career?
Excuse my enthusiasm I actually get really passionate about this kind of question. I find there are a few make or break traits.
Is it a true passion? Do it as a hobby until you become good enough to start showing people. If you find yourself doing music in your spare time as much as you can then you probably have the passion to make this viable. Can you finish a song or do you always have excuses? I have seen people sit on loose ideas for 3-5 years. If you’re doing that it might be time to accept that its just a hobby.
The older i get the more I realise the importance of originality. Never try to sound exactly someone else because you will always be below them. Be mindful of supporting other artists and being positive, not jealous, or hyper critical of others. Real artists love to support their friends and have that sense of community. Very often you find arrogant artists who have nothing going for them, it’s not a great look – occasionally you’ll find successful arrogant artists, but they’re generally those who were lucky enough to make it fast and don’t realise the value in community which can quickly fall from under them once they’re no longer in the limelight.
What does the foreseeable future hold for you as a music producer?
I am just hoping to continue this path – pushing to find my own sound. Hopefully output music quickly and see where it takes me.
‘Movement’ is available now via all major platforms.
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